President Biden’s First 100 Days and More Current Events

On the May 1, 2021 edition of Staggers State Of Things, the topics that the ladies talked about were:

• Joe Biden’s first 100 days
• American VP Kamala Harris and Senator Tim Scott saying that America is not a racist country
• The flawed, outdated Constitution of the United States
• Andrew Brown Jr. shooting exposes disconnect between majority rural White county and its mostly Black city
• Rudy Giuliani’s New York apartment raided by federal investigators
• This episode’s cockroach: Nikki Haley

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waving i was trying to talk
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replay don’t worry the audio in the
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video or maybe we’ll just leave it who
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knows the way things going on
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there we go so ladies what is going
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on ah everything
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everything all the things are going on
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all the things
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and all the things all the wheels are
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working man
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oh my goodness well ladies another quiet
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week
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in your country quiet
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no that’s unheard of
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so we’ll get right into it so
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let’s start off with uh the speech that
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mr biden made on i was with tuesday
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night
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wednesday was it tuesday wednesday
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wednesday evening so mr bai made a
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speech capping off his first hundred
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days what did you think about it
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it was brilliant it was what was needed
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at this time he touched on all the
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points
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there was no made up
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fantasy america there was
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you know i did this i did this i did
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this i want to do this i want to do this
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i want to do this
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here’s where we are and when he turned
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around
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and said you know madame speaker
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madame vice president you know
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first to say this it’s you know and it’s
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about time it just
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it was so powerful and then when he
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talked about things
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that you know really needed to be
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addressed the insurrection
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white supremacy he talked about he
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obviously talked about the pandemic
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he talked about you know climate change
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he
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spoke up for trans voices especially
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especially trans youth he talked um
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you know just about an array of things
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that needed to be
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said that had not been said in the last
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administration
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and um it was one of those things where
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you’re like
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we’re gonna be okay we’re gonna be okay
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i agree i think that he
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you know he’s exactly what we need for
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this moment
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um i was mentioning how
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you know other countries are kind of
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following suit with a more
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progressive with more progressive
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leadership leaders that can take us
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another step into the future like with
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germany and its green party it looks
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like
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they’re ahead and france we’re seeing
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some different
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different upticks of people that
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normally were not
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you know i think the people are speaking
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out and it’s kind of resonating
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jo president biden um what’s so
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fantastic is i i love that
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he’s speaking about the infrastructure
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because he is such a
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you know this is not a political thing
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i i realized that this is something that
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very dear to his heart
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about the infrastructure because if we
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all remember
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i was clearing out my facebook post
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because i’m getting flagged on stuff
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that wasn’t against like guidelines then
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but
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now is apparently uh so i was going back
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and in 2014 i remembered
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i found the article that said remember
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when you know
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joe biden uh said that uh laguardia
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airport was like a third world nation
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so i started laughing to myself because
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he was talking about amtrak
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because it was right when amtrak
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released its new electric train or
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whatever
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and he was like that’s great but we
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still need so much work on our
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infrastructure
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and what’s going on and if you can see
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that even our states are starting to do
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some amazing things like in ohio
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i believe the first lady is scheduled to
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go into ohio or
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she has gone because uh
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you know even though the republicans are
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wearing you know
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double face right now like oh no no i’m
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not in on this
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but secretly you know they’re they are
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confronting in ohio
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the the poor quality of their bridges
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like
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a few years ago they had a catastrophe
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with one of the bridges collapsing
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and there’s many more there’s bridges
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that people aren’t even able to use in
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this country
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so in ohio we’re seeing that that
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is uh a lot of progress you know a lot a
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lot of things are happening
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and um so for me biden is ticking all of
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the boxes
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because we know that we’ve got to move
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forward
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and you know it was nice to
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offer an olive branch to the to the
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republicans but
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we got to leave it behind because the
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most staggering thing to me was when
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they were talking about the reduction in
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in child poverty not one
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republican stood up so for me
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that sealed the deal for me that these
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people are putting their party
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ahead of just just basic needs of human
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beings
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they don’t even see us as human beings
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that’s what’s crazy
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it’s like they literally see party lines
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and yet they’re there to suck up food
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and heat
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with this money because let me tell you
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something all of them are going to be
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all up in there grubbing down with the
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rest of everybody else while they were
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all posting on twitter
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come and get your sba loans for um
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the covid relief fund whatever as if
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they
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did anything to move it forward when
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they never voted for it
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so the ones who look the worst in this
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are the republicans they all look dirty
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and they should all have just one term
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and be done
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because for me the the behavior i don’t
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know
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how much loyalty you can get from a
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party
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uh of their followers are just mental
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but
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after a while if if you see people
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voting against your stuff
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and not even being big enough grown up
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enough to applaud like oh yes we reduce
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childhood poverty
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they don’t care about your kids why
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would you let these people have
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leadership positions
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like it doesn’t make any sense these
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people are coming after you
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but pretending that they’re not and you
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can even now look at their voting
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records and know
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why should they be there why should they
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be there
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i don’t get it why are they allowed to
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be there
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because of some dumb americans
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just before we go a little bit further
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just want to shout out um we did start a
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little bit late today so sorry
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people for um we’re watching live we
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started but you’re all
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a lot of you’re still here so gotta say
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you know thanks up to
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real django thank you so much chris
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thank you so much uh black beauty is
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saying
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yep yep president joe’s on top of it all
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right yeah real django says that’s right
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fix the damn bridges
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and use 45’s wall to fix them
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and and chris also goes exactly jill so
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uh go ahead here’s the other thing is
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that
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trump wants to deal with
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real issues okay he wants people to have
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um stimulus for their children for x
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number amount of
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extra months he wants to fix trump
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trump does i’m sorry biden yeah yes
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biden yes yes we were talking
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we were talking about trump in the yeah
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yes yeah so new jersey yes
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um but biden wants people to have that
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he wants people he wants the
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infrastructure he wants
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safe drinking water he he wants these
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things republicans want to fight the
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culture wars because that’s what their
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voters vote on
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their voters are literally paying them
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to do nothing
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right and it’s like if that’s
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if that’s what you want you can’t
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complain
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when you get what you get
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it’s true because oh sorry sorry
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um i agree i i think that’s a good
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observation i saw
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also what jill was saying i think one of
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the things that mr biden is going to be
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his biggest enemy is time
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because the midterms are coming up plus
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he ain’t getting any younger right and
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at the end of the day it’s going to be
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the big decision for the democrats is
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do we just push ahead without them or do
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we try to appease them because
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the time is not time is not on their
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side which again then makes the big
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power player
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because munchen is the guy’s name
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mansion meant he’s the power player he’s
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the most
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most the strongest person in that
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government because he he’s a tipping
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stone
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he is and i think that you know chuck
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schumer for me
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is not the best you know guy that we
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have running
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uh that you know senate thing but
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mansion
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also is just there to do damage
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um he scathed his whole his whole
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reputation
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is is totally like crap and
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but you’re right how do we move ahead
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with him i don’t know
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maybe find some dirt on him and let’s
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just get rid of them quickly
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you know someone actually mentioned a
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really good idea which was to give um
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what is her name uh the one
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that they always classify with susan
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collins
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systema kirsten christopher
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oh i know you’re talking about can’t
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remember her name
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i know who you’re talking about though
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i’ll find out
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lisa murkowski yeah there you go
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there they’ve said that she’s been
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really leaning
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at leaving the party gift for the dance
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to give her
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what she needs and
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bring her over and then
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let joe manchin deal with himself
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that’s a great idea and i think that it
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would be great if she had the balls
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all the way to do it the problem with
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lisa murkowski
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is there’s only so long you can straddle
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the fence before
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the thing is up here you know what you
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know
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it’s like i wish she would she always
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you know it’s true give her what she
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wants there’s something that she wants
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that she’s not getting
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from either party right now that’s to
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find that job would be to find out what
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it is
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and nancy pelosi is really good at doing
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that kind of thing
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finding finding out what what that
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person really wants
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and conceive to give it to them if they
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step over
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just like the republicans did to that
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one democrat in the house
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true remember he flipped because they
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gave him what he wanted
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so the hundred hundred days
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on a scale are you okay i got two
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conversations so first things first
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are you surprised how much the biden
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administration has got done in the
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hundred days
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i am yeah and i’m also going to say when
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you were talking about the fact that
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you know we the elections coming up and
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the turnaround
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the thing about joe is he’s one of those
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i told you scorpios don’t mess with them
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they will
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not tell you what they’re doing uh all
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the way
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like they just plod through because it’s
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a very cardinal
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you know sign like it’s it’s not
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cardinal but it wants its way
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and it’s gonna figure out a way to get
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it the interesting thing is that
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you know we had a president who
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had 1900 miles to complete
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the border wall that he fought so hard
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to get
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and he only they only completed 80 miles
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so i love the fact that they also
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flipped
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the some of that money that was left
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okay 14
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billion from the army went is going
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back into child care uh
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certain uh certain uh programs that we
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already had established that trump had
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cut
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but the biggest question comes where
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where did the other money go because
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you’re telling me for three and a half
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years it took a construction crew
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uh three and a half years to to build a
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wall that looks like
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uh it looks like something out of to
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kill a mockingbird or
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or something like down and you know like
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you’re gonna go
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we were timing to see how long it would
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take
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jill to pull out the dagger and she had
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it out before we went live folks
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dr vibe if it’s a step above a picket
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fence that
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crack can
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and did pretty good in school with high
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jumping
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i’m going to tell you something a couple
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of arches going back
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you’d be over that thing clearing it in
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a second
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and they took them how much money at
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three and a half
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i i i’m like i’m amazed that trump’s
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cracker jack box houses
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are even standing oh my god what a joke
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so yeah you know but even the lady
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and the fences were saying they’re not
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hard to crawl
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they aren’t right you know it’s like
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everybody’s like and you can see
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they’re dropping the child over yeah you
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can see through the scene through the
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fences
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this stuff give me a like pull i can
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like you know pull ball
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it won’t even fall off
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i could literally pace it jump one two
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three
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and i’m over please i had enough of that
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you know
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maybe the the mishaps and the like
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uh but the wind blew down
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like a section of it that’s
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like a 30 like a 30 mile stretch or
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three i’m sorry like a
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three mile stretch of the um yes
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just the wind hurricane and it wasn’t
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even a
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high level hurricane but this this stuff
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is built so poorly
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i think the three pigs built better
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houses on the first
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house three little things
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when i listen to the replays they say go
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where did you find this lady from
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i go with it where did you find this
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lady
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he found me we connected
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and we are forever happy because of it
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and realdango lmbo usually in our phone
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calls and our
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in our text it’s usually me making her
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laugh
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yes it’s true totally i’m
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processing i’m like look at this chris
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picturing
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joe pole vaulting over the wall oh lord
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wait but the pole vault is a broom
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it’s a broom it
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and like run through in the middle of
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the night it’s like
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yeah you know it’s so bad you know
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we’re not even 20 minutes 20 minutes and
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we’ve gone off the rails i’m just
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telling you like
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so let’s bring it back so so joe
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biden has made it to 100 days you’re
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both impressed
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what what should be as we’re speaking
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right now
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live on may 1st 2021 what do you feel
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should be his
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top three priority items between now and
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the midterms
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or three priority items they don’t have
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to be in any order but three priority
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items
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getting us at at least 50 vaccinations
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at least but but definitely trying to
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get us to that 70
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where we can um have hurt immunity
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and if he’s gotten us at 30 percent
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you know at this point in just the first
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hundred days
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i think in a year and a half he can get
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us at the 70 percent
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if he’s operating at the same speed same
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pace
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okay yeah i think another priority for
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me
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is to reestablish
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our um relationships abroad
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yeah i think it’s really important that
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we have that solidarity
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and uh you know things like that um
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i think there just needs to be a reunion
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back with with leaders again the
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ones putting their brains together uh
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and and creating more of a
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the model you know that is going forth
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because
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you know we’ve got to get up to speed
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with in the in the g
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in the g8 or 12s or whatever they got
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going on
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yeah and everybody’s got to see where
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everybody is at this point because with
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leadership
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changing in certain countries and i also
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think
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it will impact you just create a
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more it gives
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less for the white supremacists and the
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disruptors
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around the world to penetrate that
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i think you know i think you know that
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it’s important to have that and i
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i also feel that he’s got to make sure
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that major the dog does not
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kill the cat when it comes in that’s
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just the other priority that i feel
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well they put on school for that i don’t
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i don’t care i’m still worried about
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that little cat
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i still sit here and go oh please you
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guys please make sure that that dog
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let him eat let him go eat any of the
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republicans but just
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don’t win and hurt that cat oh
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and one more thing i think that he
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should really um
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work hard at getting that um
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reconciliation bill
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through before the end of summer okay um
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that’s true so so so putting on so we’re
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gonna we’re gonna continue
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during the conversation here so if
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anyone has if you’re watching this live
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any comments
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what do you feel whether you’re an
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american or not american
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what are what should be president
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biden’s three biggest priority or three
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priorities between now and the midterm
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and if you’re watching this on replay
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you can certainly make comments if
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you’re
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on whatever video platform you’re
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watching i’ll either be on youtube
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facebook live or my website if you’re
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listening to the audio
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certainly email me at dr period the ibe
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at the drvw.com
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would love to get your feedback on it
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and here
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and we already have an answer for your
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black beauty saying voting rights
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infrastructure and vaccines that’s true
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yeah voting rights is uh dealing with
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the next election
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yeah dealing with the states is that
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because that fiasco that’s going on the
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great thing is that they did
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bring in the democrats while those ninja
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people are counting
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oh i just wish i could be one of those
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people including one
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no no jail jill i don’t got the bail
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money for you i don’t got the bail money
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for you jill
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i don’t have the bail money for you
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sorry let me
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go and sit in there i’ll be like
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crunching chips
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oh my goodness getting some mayonnaise
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from my sandwich i was like oh i’m sorry
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i’m sorry
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aisha this is your fault
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i’m blaming you i’m blaming you
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i i love you but i’m blaming you you
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know that
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uh chris is saying vaccinations repaying
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global relations
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voting rights and capital letters yeah
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yeah and that’s why i think they should
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definitely put the voting rights
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stuff in the next reconciliation
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yeah yes and we all need to schmooze up
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to lisa murkowski and say
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baby you’ll be loved so much more here
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you know
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just come on cuddle give us a cuddle
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right okay start treating her better
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than joe manchin see how that goes
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and joan and joanie earn swig well hey
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who chooses a great just wanting to move
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on to the next subject and then still
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did it again
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phyllis diller wigs exactly you know
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it’s crazy
22:59
that much money she makes but girl your
23:02
hair is not even
23:04
gray your hair is like dark brown
23:07
why are you go why are you choosing a
23:08
grey wig on purpose
23:10
i don’t know i think that that because
23:12
like washington
23:14
it’s the creepy party yeah george
23:16
washington
23:17
okay all right no i know i’m just saying
23:19
no you guys you listen go ahead i just i
23:21
surrender
23:22
i just let you go i should just come out
23:24
of the square and just let you ladies
23:25
roll tonight
23:27
you’re just on fire tonight but i’ll
23:29
i’ll stay
23:30
i’ll stay i’ll stay i’ll stay all right
23:32
well let’s
23:33
let’s continue on interesting thing
23:36
happened after
23:37
mr biden’s speech uh
23:40
tim scott senator the only black
23:44
american senator for the national
23:46
republican party
23:47
uncle did the rebuttal and he
23:51
said that america is not a racist
23:53
country which
23:55
i think was very interesting because
23:57
there’s a black man
23:59
the only black man in an all-white party
24:02
saying that there’s no race but then
24:05
what really threw me for a curveball was
24:07
then now on an interview
24:09
during the week vice president kamala
24:11
harris saying america is not a racist
24:13
country
24:14
so i’m going here’s a republican here’s
24:16
a democrat both black
24:20
not saying the country is racist ladies
24:23
talk to me talk to our audience on this
24:25
give it to us
24:26
i think we have to take them separately
24:30
there’s a difference between
24:34
that you know
24:37
oh god i’m trying to be nice that uncle
24:40
tom
24:42
tim scott saying there’s no racism
24:46
in america been saying that he’s been
24:48
profile police profiled but there’s no
24:50
racism
24:51
and then going from cotton to congress
24:55
if that wasn’t just the most
25:00
like yeah negro what’s wrong with you
25:02
line
25:03
yeah it was
25:06
it was irksome okay that that’s not even
25:09
a word but that’s how it made me
25:11
feel i mean
25:15
it just he gave every reason as to why
25:18
america has not been
25:20
explained exactly how it has been for
25:23
him
25:24
um the only thing that was missing like
25:26
we said earlier was the answer my
25:28
um rag up on his head it just i mean
25:32
he was tap dancing for the gods on that
25:35
response
25:36
and um that was the only thing that he
25:40
talked about he didn’t address anything
25:42
else mind you and the fact that he was
25:45
dragged out
25:46
by the republican party is proof
25:49
positive
25:50
paradise that yeah that racism
25:53
does exist because they ask the only
25:56
black person
25:58
that they have in the house
26:01
and and the senate right
26:04
to speak and and affirm
26:08
for them so they don’t experience the
26:11
white guilt that they have
26:13
over the fact that racism really is a
26:15
thing now with kamala harris
26:19
this is a matter of democrats
26:22
not saying what they really want to say
26:25
to keep up appearances
26:29
but she does go further to discuss
26:33
the existence of systemic racism which
26:36
is one thing
26:37
republicans will say doesn’t exist
26:41
when asked the question about whether or
26:44
not
26:44
racism exists does systemic racism exist
26:48
you have lindsey graham here saying no
26:50
how the hell would he know
26:52
he doesn’t experience it you have all
26:54
these other
26:55
ones coming now and attacking the 1619
26:59
project that just talks about the fact
27:03
that black people were brought here in
27:07
1619
27:08
as chattel slaves and then
27:12
experienced racism upon racism upon
27:15
racism
27:16
through the system only to
27:20
you know survive it and and it just
27:23
you know i i think there are two
27:25
different ways to to see it
27:28
um but
27:32
tim scott i was just like throwing shoes
27:34
and stuff at the
27:35
tv wow
27:39
jill yeah i was like
27:43
what in a little black [ __ ] is going on
27:48
and as langston hughes would have said
27:50
about that speech he
27:52
definitely put it through in uh picking
27:56
any style
27:56
didn’t he yeah he was definitely
27:59
illustrated to
28:01
to not disturb
28:06
white america’s comfort with what’s been
28:09
happening
28:10
i think the fact that people try to
28:12
diminish and
28:13
and use the thing like th this blanket
28:16
of
28:17
um yes america is you know
28:20
is it all of america is racist well
28:23
that i think by even just cherry-picking
28:26
that to say was definitely
28:31
it was chosen it was opted for a very
28:34
clear reason because that’s really not
28:36
what the argument’s been about
28:38
the argument has been about systemic
28:40
racism
28:41
and how pervasive and insidious it has
28:44
been in this country
28:46
so i think the fact that he tried to
28:48
play those little games
28:49
that for me it was a big no and even
28:52
though
28:53
kamala said what she said which was
28:56
you know america is not a racist country
29:00
well are we speaking of the country as a
29:02
person as a thing as a
29:05
we that’s just the that’s just the topic
29:08
the headline but when you go within the
29:11
body of it this is why we’re all
29:13
tap dancing around this topic
29:16
there is definitely
29:19
a heightened sense of racism in this
29:22
country
29:23
that we haven’t seen in years now
29:26
whoever wants to be brave enough to go
29:28
in and unearth just how long these
29:30
people have been seething
29:32
with their racism and malcontent and
29:35
uh you know hatred that’s a whole other
29:39
study in itself but i’m pretty sure
29:42
with technology has really exposed a lot
29:45
of discrimination
29:46
it’s made it so blanketed in your face
29:49
like a
29:50
just hit you in the face that you really
29:52
cannot
29:53
look away from it i had an encounter
29:55
today with somebody who was like
29:57
cherokee and talking about you only see
30:00
race you only see this and you know and
30:04
i was like well i’m a person of color
30:05
blah blah
30:06
i feel that you know we we
30:10
we cannot compartmentalize um
30:14
injustices because i do believe that
30:16
they tether and reach
30:18
tentacles that reach into other areas
30:21
nothing is in a silo it’s all really
30:23
connected
30:24
and so the person is like you only see
30:26
it but when the reason white people
30:28
compartmentalize their
30:30
racism or denial is because they sleep
30:34
better when they think that way but the
30:36
minute something happens to them like
30:38
oh the fbi came in and knocked down you
30:41
know these
30:41
these capitol hill people rioters and
30:44
their rights were violated well
30:46
i would give a damn if you gave a damn
30:49
about what’s going on
30:51
in the black community and other people
30:54
of color’s neighborhoods
30:55
because when something goes wrong in our
30:57
neighborhoods
30:59
uh albeit you know we have a you know no
31:02
one is
31:02
we don’t all have great people in any of
31:05
the ethnic
31:06
ethnicities white black yellow green
31:08
whatever but
31:09
we get attributed to the whole batch oh
31:12
well they deserve it
31:13
and that’s wrong that’s wrong so
31:16
for me that’s why i’m not
31:20
gonna really give it too much play with
31:22
with tim
31:23
because tim has to live with his white
31:25
wife and he has to give her what she
31:27
wants
31:27
if you know so he’ll say just about
31:30
anything
31:31
to be because you know i know men
31:34
like tim scott i
31:37
know them from politics and just in life
31:42
and it was a disgrace it was a disgrace
31:47
what he said and how he tried to qualify
31:49
it
31:50
because the reality is we have a problem
31:53
and
31:54
it affects many people and the denial on
31:57
that
31:59
uh is disgusting and i don’t know how he
32:02
sleeps
32:05
you know before you go to the comments
32:08
doctor i’m an observation that i’ve made
32:10
that i’ve noticed that
32:12
continuously happens is the white people
32:14
that get upset
32:16
when you say america is racist and you
32:19
know you’re talking specifically
32:21
about systemic racism are the people who
32:24
see
32:25
the word america when you say america
32:28
as them individually being america
32:32
that america is an individual and they
32:35
are that individual and so when you say
32:38
america is racist
32:40
they take it as a personal attack on
32:43
them
32:44
that you’re saying that they as an
32:46
individual
32:47
are racist not that the country has
32:50
systemic racism
32:52
and that’s not what’s being said at all
32:55
and the thing
32:56
i always was told that a hit dog hollers
33:00
so if you feel like you are being
33:03
personally attacked
33:05
when people say this about the country
33:09
not you as an individual but if you feel
33:11
like you are being personally attacked
33:13
then maybe you need to re-examine
33:16
how you view race well it’s true because
33:19
people don’t even want to address the
33:21
fact
33:21
that how how deep these microaggressions
33:24
go
33:25
even when there are people in hr who
33:27
receive resumes with people who
33:29
they think are black immediately those
33:32
are forms of discrimination
33:34
these are that is why hr departments
33:37
should be
33:38
artificial intelligence driven and not
33:42
based upon human beings determining uh a
33:45
situation it’s got to be
33:47
very like oh well shaniqua can’t have it
33:49
because there we’ve seen those kind of
33:51
situations we’ve seen people
33:53
go for jobs in this country uh we we
33:56
and and the and we see that the pay
33:58
there’s a difference in pay
34:00
structures so you know we and and then
34:04
now it’s so because we ignored all of
34:06
those little microaggressions
34:08
here we are watching people get murdered
34:11
on camera and they want to quantify and
34:14
qualify it
34:15
which i keep saying how can you live
34:18
with yourself like that cherokee
34:20
guy i said you don’t get off so easily
34:22
because the cherokee nation
34:24
enslaved how many african americans and
34:27
you
34:27
just two months ago gave
34:30
them uh had to acknowledge their heirs
34:34
because you were so greedy and didn’t
34:36
want them to have anything to do with
34:38
getting benefits from your land your
34:41
share
34:42
i mean america has created this this is
34:45
my pie this is my pie this is my pie
34:48
i don’t know how a nation when i think
34:50
of nation
34:51
i do not think of people going give me
34:54
this this is mine this is mine
34:56
i think of a pie and everybody gets a
34:59
piece of it
35:00
that’s just my thinking you know but uh
35:03
that’s just me
35:04
let me let me start because a pile of
35:06
comments have come in
35:08
expectedly from this conversation
35:11
so first up real django saying i’ve been
35:13
very
35:14
disappointed disappointed the reputable
35:16
republican party
35:18
since 1997 when i was on my last leg
35:21
as a registered republican these
35:23
politicians must be in on system racism
35:25
since they
35:26
protested so much he also says
35:29
it’s so obvious it’s to so many people
35:31
but uncle tim has the audacity to
35:33
audacity to proclaim that there’s no
35:35
racism question mark
35:37
he says it’s repulsive chris is saying
35:40
right on the money aisha
35:42
black beauty the ladies are definitely
35:44
spot on in addressing these truths and
35:46
capital letters and
35:47
the okay side yeah so let me ask both of
35:51
you then
35:52
is america a racist
35:55
country and also if you’re watching live
35:58
or watching on the replay
35:59
is america a racist country if you saw
36:02
what we saw
36:04
on january 6th
36:08
and you can still say that america is
36:10
not a racist country
36:12
then something is seriously wrong with
36:13
you
36:15
i i think that when we start to think of
36:19
the body of people here
36:22
that we have a couple of moving parts
36:25
that are
36:26
accelerating quite quickly you know
36:30
people have a lot of fear about their
36:33
futures
36:34
and i for the most part
36:38
believe that the country uh on the
36:41
premise of what our country is supposed
36:43
to be
36:44
we’re not living up to that and the
36:47
country
36:47
tries to not adhere to these racist
36:51
attitudes but when you see january 6
36:53
like she said
36:54
you have a group of people that want to
36:57
adhere
36:58
to uh to cancel out all the
37:02
all the progress we’ve made even with
37:04
our new legislation
37:05
it’s like christians who want to live in
37:07
the book of
37:08
freaking leviticus you know it’s like
37:11
then i don’t know why they’ve even got
37:12
electric and running water and toilets
37:15
i mean these people don’t even
37:17
understand that
37:19
no our founding fathers didn’t
37:21
anticipate a lot of the things that have
37:23
come along the way but they thought
37:26
people would use their common sense
37:28
hell they didn’t even know that that
37:30
they would have a
37:31
toilet inside the white house they were
37:33
these dudes were going to an
37:35
outhouse so you know it’s called
37:38
evolving modifying and
37:42
really taking in what they did have
37:45
and what they did possess we’ve always
37:47
focused
37:48
was a modicum of trying to aspire and
37:53
to to being better however they slipped
37:56
a little
37:57
because they hadn’t elevated as human
38:00
beings
38:01
to to even recognize other cultures
38:04
other other creeds other other color
38:07
skin
38:08
so we we need to move on from that and
38:11
just
38:11
know that wow it’s too bad they weren’t
38:14
that way
38:15
but we don’t have to be that way we have
38:18
seen that people aspire in this country
38:20
now
38:21
to aspire backwards to aspire to old
38:24
days well if you want to do that
38:25
then you better get your little pioneer
38:27
outfits on and you better
38:29
get get a musket get rid of your a-51s
38:32
or whatever they’re called
38:33
and yeah and and get and and live that
38:37
pioneer life
38:38
because you cannot straddle the fence
38:40
without it going up your you-know-who
38:43
so my whole point is for this is that is
38:46
it racist
38:47
not from the amount of immigrants that
38:49
we have that
38:51
unfortunately it can flip them into it
38:53
too because it becomes a
38:55
crab for a barrel full of crabs that’s
38:58
the problem with the country is turned
39:00
into the
39:02
that mentality crabs in a barrel and
39:05
uh people shooting at you that’s the
39:07
thing and they’re shooting at the black
39:09
and brown ones
39:10
yeah you know what i’ll add this that
39:14
the fraction of the country that is
39:17
racist
39:17
the fraction of america that is racist
39:20
are the ones who don’t like the fact
39:22
that the country is not going to be
39:27
the majority then in the next few years
39:30
that’s what their problem is is that
39:34
they have this majority
39:35
and their they have this fear this
39:38
overwhelming fear that they will never
39:40
admit to
39:42
in public out loud but if you ask them
39:45
individually and they hate you enough
39:47
they’ll tell you
39:48
that fear is that we will treat them the
39:51
way that they’ve all treated
39:53
us so tell me is america racist or not
39:57
because if it isn’t then those people
40:00
would have nothing to
40:01
fear at least those people would have
40:03
nothing
40:04
you know if it wasn’t they would have
40:06
nothing to fear
40:07
they know that it is at least those
40:09
people know that is the ones who
40:11
are afraid um
40:15
but the other part too is that
40:18
when we get to talking about the country
40:22
as a whole
40:24
um being racist it’s like jill said
40:27
our constitution is not a perfect
40:29
document it did not
40:32
predict this future it did not predict
40:36
this um demographic makeup that we’re
40:40
really walking into it did not predict
40:42
the number of
40:44
biracial people mixed race people
40:47
that would come out of just
40:50
all kinds of combinations of people
40:54
procreating and so
40:58
there were people who weren’t prepared
41:01
prepared for that and i think those
41:04
people have
41:07
continued to
41:11
further the idea of racism
41:14
but you’re absolutely right what what i
41:17
want to point out
41:18
is what you’re specifically addressing
41:22
is that’s how you see how
41:25
uh genocide is fermented this is where
41:28
it comes from
41:29
i have an amazing book on genocide even
41:32
what happened in rwanda with the two
41:34
different tribes
41:35
that were essentially the same and how
41:37
the media
41:38
and the governments and all these you
41:40
know people play into it
41:42
but we also saw that with the jewish
41:44
people
41:45
in um germany and we’ve seen ethnic
41:48
cleansing with milosevic and croatia
41:51
bosnia serbia we’ve seen it it
41:54
always happens because people and and
41:57
also
41:57
uh with the uyghurs in china the thing
42:00
is
42:01
people in power do not want change
42:04
because they don’t want to lose their
42:05
power
42:06
and when you have a different mindset
42:09
coming along
42:10
because for the most part people can get
42:12
along with each other
42:14
i do believe that without the added uh
42:17
the additives of hate uh i’ve seen poor
42:20
broke people
42:21
all near the appalachian districts all
42:24
getting along
42:25
because they’re all poor they’re all
42:27
broke as you know what
42:29
but what happens is it’s the hierarchy
42:31
again
42:32
and this these people because of she’s
42:35
saying their fear
42:36
of you know a brown planet or whatever
42:39
they think is going to happen
42:41
they uh foment hate and
42:44
they it ultimately if you allow it
42:49
it will result in a genocide
42:52
there’s just no other way it will not if
42:55
we don’t deal with it now then our
42:56
children will deal with it
42:58
and some people’s children will be
43:00
caught up in it and may
43:02
not survive it so we as the adults in
43:05
the room have to continue to fight this
43:08
okay i will just break uh cut
43:11
comments are flying chris is saying
43:14
absolutely this is a racist country
43:16
chris does live in america
43:18
black beauty is saying unfortunately
43:20
america is definitely the epitome of
43:22
what a racist country is
43:24
uh real django all i know right now is i
43:27
have to get out of the south i mean it’s
43:29
not
43:29
1945 bad but the 1945
43:32
mentality lurks around uh
43:35
true aisha but 200 plus years later and
43:38
we still
43:39
in the throes of white supremacy check
43:41
your watches people
43:43
and then christina says real django that
43:46
is so true
43:46
uh aisha interesting statement you made
43:48
that that the constitution is not a
43:50
perfect dobbin
43:51
some people would say that it’s perfect
43:53
by for the people who
43:54
made it look like the people who made it
43:57
well
43:58
you know what it’s not even perfect for
44:00
them
44:01
because it’s outdated when sitting down
44:05
if you ever sit and read our
44:06
constitution
44:08
you you’ll be like oh my gosh they kind
44:11
of need to amend this
44:13
why isn’t anybody trying to amend this
44:15
because this
44:16
legitimately no longer applies now for
44:19
anybody
44:20
right okay there’s still there’s these
44:22
are people who are still eating porridge
44:24
for breakfast on a daily because that’s
44:27
all there was
44:28
these are people who like you know i
44:31
mean
44:32
gave oranges for presents at christmas
44:36
these are people who ate
44:39
flesh of a dog or used to take
44:42
chickens and put the chicken on a wound
44:47
uh because if they thought somebody had
44:49
been
44:50
bitten by a bat or had rabies this is
44:53
how they cured things
44:54
so do we go back to that this is a this
44:57
is a country
44:58
that one of its heinous crimes was
45:00
burning people
45:01
thinking they were witches how crazy is
45:04
that
45:05
that is absolute madness or
45:08
actually people first people hung people
45:11
from a tree so it’s
45:12
always been violent we can’t just
45:14
discount that
45:16
so what it has you know steeped itself
45:19
in
45:19
you know you can’t steep your tea in poo
45:21
poo and expect it to taste like you know
45:24
uh chamomile it’s not this is what we
45:27
get
45:28
yeah and it’s like think about you think
45:30
about this you think about things
45:32
in our country that are so
45:35
normal for us and things that we do
45:38
that are like mainstream when people say
45:41
be you know oh you sold me down the
45:43
river don’t realize that that comes
45:46
that’s slavery talk that you talk about
45:48
being sold
45:50
down the river to mississippi that had
45:52
the worst
45:54
plantations in the country you talk
45:56
about people like oh i’m going on a
45:58
picnic
45:59
not knowing where the origin of the word
46:02
picnic comes from which meant to pick a
46:05
black person to go lynch
46:07
and bring all your friends your family
46:09
your countrymen out to sit and watch
46:12
with food picking you know yeah yeah
46:15
and kill them and then they would eat
46:17
and barbecue that’s what that was
46:19
picking a mini pic picnic and some
46:21
people would use the n-word with that
46:23
right that’s true i yeah right you’re
46:26
being kind
46:29
a lot of our traditions are steeped
46:32
in this history that
46:36
that is rooted in our constitution
46:39
which is a flawed document not to say
46:42
that we shouldn’t have one just to say
46:45
that it’s flawed it’s imperfect
46:47
and a lot of it needs to be amended and
46:49
guess what hey
46:51
that’s cool why shouldn’t we revisit the
46:54
well
46:55
armed militia part of the second
46:57
amendment
46:58
yes exactly it’s competitive you know
47:02
for people to be like oh they’re taking
47:04
this
47:05
literally well if we’re gonna take it
47:06
literally then let’s read that then we
47:08
need to read about our
47:10
gun law reevaluate our gun laws because
47:14
exactly if you want to be a well-armed
47:16
militia bring your musket back
47:18
look either we need to do away with the
47:20
police who shoot people
47:22
right or we need to bring back
47:26
into antiquated firearms well that’s
47:29
what i
47:30
agree with or we need to just
47:33
update and amend our gun laws which is
47:36
it
47:37
right all right well let’s catch up on
47:39
some more comments as usual they’re
47:40
flying
47:41
rio django says new york loves me
47:43
because all the critics love me in new
47:45
york
47:48
i knew i know that play i love that
47:51
okay next up chris is saying we were
47:54
taught to fear the
47:55
witches yet not to fear those who burn
47:57
them that is messed up
47:58
i know it is and then real django says
48:02
the constitution should be considered as
48:04
a living document it has to be changes
48:06
times change the declaration of
48:08
independence etc etc
48:10
bill of rights all of it that’s very
48:12
true it is a living document and it does
48:14
i mean it’s like they
48:16
you know are just feeding at the same
48:18
old
48:19
it’s been amended for other things it’s
48:21
like it was finally amended so that we
48:23
were recognized
48:24
as citizens and not three-fifths of a
48:28
person
48:28
so why can’t we amend it and keep it
48:31
going
48:33
for other things as they change like
48:35
this insurrection
48:37
in january there should be a
48:39
constitutional amendment
48:40
somewhere coming because i know they
48:43
they violated something absolutely
48:48
absolutely black beauty is saying thank
48:50
you ladies for exposing the bare bones
48:52
and ugliness of america
48:55
yep easy to do it’s easy to do
48:58
when you know the when the vultures are
49:00
out because
49:02
it america is a carcass
49:05
in many many ways right now and let’s
49:07
not forget 75 million people voted for a
49:10
racist
49:11
they did and they voted for a war
49:16
to fund with through their guns and all
49:18
their stuff
49:19
to uh harm people in yemen
49:23
right now just thinking about them and
49:26
that’s just rough really really rough
49:28
well let’s move it on to our next
49:30
conversation piece and if you’re live
49:32
watching us keep the conversations
49:34
flowing
49:34
flowing ladies love it we love it we
49:36
love it love it next up
49:39
talking about interesting situations
49:40
north carolina judge rules andrew brown
49:43
footage will not be released so uh this
49:46
is unfortunately another
49:47
shooting of a black male and the ladies
49:50
will give some background on it but
49:52
i don’t know i i found this very strange
49:54
that
49:55
footage will not be released for one
49:58
month like not even the victim’s family
50:02
what were you saying joe could only see
50:03
like 20 seconds or a minute of this
50:06
of the police
50:09
the family only saw 20 seconds of it but
50:12
within the next 10 days or so they’ll be
50:14
able to see more footage
50:16
but the judge has ruled that it won’t be
50:17
made public in north carolina there’s a
50:20
state law
50:22
in north carolina in these tim scott
50:25
united
50:26
states um where racism doesn’t exist
50:29
that um they aren’t
50:32
automatically made public okay
50:36
yeah so the a judge has to decide on
50:40
that
50:41
and the judge has decided no so you know
50:44
it has to be
50:45
really bad if the judge is not going to
50:48
allow that because they have evidence in
50:51
other cases that the judges have you
50:54
know
50:54
open this footage up but what the family
50:57
found
50:58
in an independent autopsy was that he
51:01
was shot three times in the
51:02
arm twice in the back of the head
51:05
what was his warrant for aisha and i’m
51:08
unclear
51:10
um if i’m not mistaken i think it was
51:14
like i i can’t remember i want to i’m
51:16
getting
51:17
cases confused because there’s so
51:20
many of them coming it’s like every week
51:23
and you’re
51:23
in the there’s always a warning or
51:26
something that they have but
51:28
he had his hands on the steering wheel
51:35
and so um drug dealer
51:38
i think they’re saying yeah that might
51:40
that’s
51:41
um probably what they’re they’re
51:44
alleging
51:44
but um the family um has not had any
51:48
evidence that the warrant was
51:50
open or anything like that either that’s
51:52
another thing that they’re complaining
51:53
about is that
51:54
they’re getting minimal information that
51:57
no that the
51:58
police aren’t talking and they’re not
52:00
talking to the lawyers
52:02
either well the real django is saying
52:04
the fixes in
52:05
edited video yeah they only showed them
52:09
good points like
52:10
basically driving past the family said
52:13
and what they saw was an execution
52:16
right uh they said that he was a uh
52:20
they’re they’re claiming he had the
52:22
intent to
52:23
sell cocaine i mean he i let’s just put
52:26
it this way
52:27
they didn’t even do this to who was that
52:30
dude from mexico that they got
52:32
uh the one that they had yeah i mean
52:35
for real
52:40
i’m like okay so how wild
52:43
is that like this this it seems like in
52:47
some of these places these backwoods
52:49
towns
52:50
minneapolis included in that backwoods
52:52
comment
52:53
um that it’s such a personal there’s
52:57
something
52:58
personal from the streets that happens
53:01
because that they’re doing i mean i saw
53:03
in the video
53:05
the amount of cops that were going to do
53:07
this i mean
53:09
come on i mean is it wouldn’t you really
53:12
want to get a career drug person to find
53:14
out
53:15
where they’re getting the drugs how
53:17
they’re bringing them into the country
53:19
how can we stop this why was he the big
53:22
fish
53:23
why was he the big kahuna i mean even if
53:26
i was cooperating
53:30
but for real like are you kidding me
53:33
because that’s a whole world like was he
53:36
dealing fentanyl was he doing
53:37
well what are we doing here you’re going
53:40
to just like
53:41
do what right
53:44
do you know who he was buying him from
53:46
because he certainly wasn’t making it
53:48
so all that all that and a town that’s
53:52
dropping dead
53:53
all the time with people white people in
53:56
these southern towns have been hit the
53:57
hardest
53:58
from this drug thing with fentanyl i’m
54:01
sorry
54:02
uh for the most part so but why would
54:04
you took him out like that
54:06
so cinema canelo the one of the lawyers
54:08
for mr brown is benjamin crump the
54:10
gentleman you see
54:11
all the time and he says yes two of
54:14
their lawyers
54:15
andrew brown jr and wendell canal but
54:17
benjamin
54:18
crump is part of that teams just
54:20
answering that question black
54:22
beauty is saying modern day mississippi
54:24
burning our country’s never going to get
54:26
rid of
54:26
this vile system too many races at the
54:29
top love it
54:30
uh simon canelo’s saying el chapo got
54:32
the royal treatment
54:35
essentially yeah
54:38
el chapo keeps getting away yeah
54:42
and it’s like if you would think that if
54:47
you would think that if this was like
54:50
the big
54:50
drug warrant right he was he would have
54:54
tried to escape
54:55
he didn’t he put his hands on the wheel
54:57
like they told him
54:59
right and complied
55:02
and his lawyers his lawyers said that
55:07
so this is sad story another sad story
55:10
like
55:11
yeah and the sad part about it the
55:14
saddest part
55:15
is that we know next week there will be
55:17
another one
55:18
and we’ll be right back here talking
55:20
about that next week let’s try to get
55:22
through the weekend
55:25
you know look at this similar canal el
55:28
chapo wife is living and
55:30
living in luxury still actually they
55:33
just arrested her
55:35
you’re kidding me out here
55:38
san diego blackboard somewhere at the
55:41
board
55:42
at the border block you is saying our
55:44
politics to
55:45
to include judicial system housing
55:47
employment education hell even religion
55:51
christina says and folks loving this
55:55
live
55:55
stuff ladies love it it also gives them
55:57
a break and also gives them some
55:59
laughter
55:59
the us has been working with you’re
56:01
working with el chapo you with years el
56:03
chapo for years
56:04
before he decided to take too large of a
56:06
cut us’s dirty secret
56:08
whoa that is interesting
56:12
very interesting that is that
56:16
is a very very interesting i’ll have to
56:18
maybe do some uh research on that to see
56:21
what’s going on because that
56:22
that would not be a surprise
56:26
because we have to really take a look at
56:28
who
56:29
our leaders are they have no scruples
56:31
and no morals so
56:33
it wouldn’t surprise me if that were the
56:35
case
56:37
but you know look how they like dusted
56:40
got rid of
56:41
epstein you know what i mean it’s like
56:44
okay how the drug game was in the 80s
56:46
and 90s now they were flooding
56:48
the black and brown communities
56:52
rio daniels saying i miss san diego in
56:54
the 70s jill
56:55
yeah yeah panama
56:59
that’s what cinnamon juice is and then
57:01
cinnamon canel saying chris
57:02
christina you got it remember panama
57:05
hmm yes wow this audience you are on
57:09
fire tonight
57:10
i’m telling you you are on fire you help
57:14
make this an epic conversation
57:16
it’s good stuff so we’re where our next
57:20
conversation topic
57:21
is one of jill’s and aisha’s all-time
57:25
favorite individuals the great of the
57:28
supposedly one of the great mayors of
57:31
all time of new york city
57:35
rudy giuliani’s apartment raided by
57:38
federal investigators
57:40
what’s wrong jill i don’t know he
57:43
probably thought he was going to be
57:44
filming for hoarders i can only imagine
57:48
what his damn house looked like you know
57:51
i just get this
57:58
they were probably up there like oh my
58:00
god what the hell is this
58:01
and you know he probably is like are you
58:05
filming for
58:05
hoarders wow
58:12
his apartment that he came to the door
58:14
like a dirty t-shirt
58:15
you know one of those v-neck t-shirts
58:18
and boxer shorts striped ones
58:20
with the socks that have the uh the
58:22
thing around them to keep them held up
58:25
yes and just the dye dripping down the
58:28
side of his face yeah
58:29
that’s how i imagined him coming to the
58:31
door yeah and he said he’s in
58:33
in a in a tank top you know yeah exactly
58:36
he’s that guy
58:38
he totally looks like cause then when he
58:39
came out he had on those rust red shoes
58:43
and it’s like you know i’m telling you
58:47
there are signals that these old people
58:49
are doing with their
58:50
red ties and their certain choices of
58:55
outfits it has to be a flag to each
58:57
other
58:59
yeah i know it’s true he’s got those old
59:02
men
59:02
that old man gap that starts to happen
59:05
yeah
59:05
he’s the guy right where the pants just
59:08
never fit
59:09
but um but yeah they they rated it
59:12
smells like graveyard dust
59:16
and he he basically keeps saying that he
59:18
has
59:20
you know he he was trying to paint this
59:22
picture of what was written
59:23
on the warrant when they came through
59:27
and from what daniel goldman or goldberg
59:29
said
59:30
it wouldn’t be written that would be the
59:32
first time like
59:33
he’s like well they came in and talked
59:36
about
59:36
you know ukraine and then he’s like i
59:39
tried to give him hunter biden’s
59:40
you know laptop he don’t have i’m sorry
59:43
the man is a liar
59:45
it’s it’s more than enough that they
59:48
deal with it and finish him off
59:50
and even his own buddy trump said
59:53
something bizarre which was
59:55
well you know rudy he does things uh but
59:59
he’s a patriot
60:01
like if that’s not like like basically
60:04
saying
60:05
yeah i know he gets a little ahead of
60:07
himself and he goes and tries to think
60:08
he’s going to change the world because
60:09
he’s a patriot yeah he probably did meet
60:12
with the russians
60:13
but he does things and he didn’t mean it
60:16
this is this is what
60:17
so that’s the angle but if i was
60:19
giuliani i’d be like
60:20
yo what’d you say because why
60:24
why was this guy flying kites for for uh
60:28
trump what is the deal i mean
60:31
talk about going down in flames
60:35
flames see really this shows you just
60:38
how bad of a lawyer
60:40
he is because first of all he
60:43
knows what a search warrant looks like
60:46
and what information
60:47
it’s going to have and what it’s not
60:49
going to have so for him to go out and
60:51
lie about it
60:52
as a lawyer tells all the other
60:56
lawyers in america he’s just a bad
60:58
lawyer
60:59
truly he’s not a matlock and he’s
61:02
certainly no perry mason
61:04
right you know second of all a good
61:06
lawyer would tell you
61:07
when um the feds or any other kind of
61:11
law enforcement
61:12
raise your house the first thing you
61:14
should do is
61:15
be quiet he’s out here
61:18
talking every chance he could get
61:22
about how he’s not guilty of this and
61:25
that
61:25
how do you know what they’re even
61:27
looking for
61:28
i agree it’s really bad
61:32
and he knew they were coming like they
61:34
they basically
61:35
told him for a long time they knew that
61:38
he knew that he was that the tides had
61:41
changed since william barr wasn’t there
61:44
um and if you follow lev parnas
61:47
yeah who was i i do i watch him
61:50
and he’s funny actually you know and i
61:52
actually like that
61:54
his at the top of his twitter feed he’s
61:56
like says under indictment
61:58
you know but i also i know he has known
62:01
trump since he was 18 because remember
62:04
he kind of got pulled into this as a
62:06
child by working with fred trump
62:09
that’s where his sad kind of life went
62:12
into
62:13
and you know he knows all the goodies
62:16
but i think lev and his brother
62:18
aaron harness they’ve all believed me
62:21
the pieces of this stuff are only just
62:25
starting to uh find themselves and
62:28
rudy is going to be like algernon in a
62:30
maze trying to recapture and figure out
62:33
all the lies
62:34
that he’s he’s pulled because trump
62:36
basically is like yeah
62:38
rudy does things yeah he does things but
62:40
he’s a good patriot
62:42
whoa and see what giuliani is forgetting
62:45
is that this is no longer the trump
62:47
administration
62:49
or the trump doj which does all of its
62:52
work
62:52
based on public opinion and not the
62:55
actual
62:56
law so rudy is trying to win public
62:59
opinion
63:01
when the doj has
63:04
his ass on actual crimes
63:07
well yeah because they already knew the
63:09
ukraine stuff
63:10
the real question is what came along
63:14
subsequently that made them get the
63:16
warrant and go after one of their
63:19
friends phones down in florida they took
63:22
her phone
63:23
so what what what new
63:26
info came through because something did
63:29
and
63:30
you know that that’s just the way that’s
63:32
just the way
63:34
it looks like he he’s in a sling
63:37
yeah he’s in a sling when the feds
63:39
usually go after you like that you broke
63:41
a law
63:42
right yes take a quick break real django
63:46
saying oh lord
63:47
rudy he’s a lunatic black beauty
63:51
couldn’t happen to a more deserving
63:53
creep other than juliani
63:56
real django ding ding ding
64:00
and chris saying oh man giuliani running
64:03
around looking like simon bar sinister
64:05
from
64:06
under yeah
64:09
the man is just some major mess
64:13
he was supposed to have a major
64:14
announcement late today
64:16
from when when you when hawk in new
64:18
jersey of all places was that
64:20
announcement made
64:21
i don’t we’re talking about new jersey
64:24
yeah that is so funny because
64:26
here’s the interesting thing maybe he’ll
64:27
have it in front of a
64:29
you know i don’t know utility department
64:31
today
64:32
i don’t know yes yes yes yes
64:35
he did say he had a big announcement and
64:38
that’s the thing i said to my husband
64:40
oh rudy’s always uh i’m gonna have
64:41
something for you later
64:43
listen he’s in new jersey trump is
64:45
moving his stuff to new jersey
64:49
yes you were mentioned you were
64:50
mentioning that you
64:52
mentioned that before we went live
64:54
something’s going on in new jersey
64:56
we got to keep an eye on that well we’re
64:58
gonna have to talk to brother
64:59
uh uh uh in new work
65:02
um lucky i mean corey yeah we’re gonna
65:05
have to talk to brother booker and be
65:07
like yo what is up because
65:09
they’re definitely there’s a lot of them
65:11
who they say uh are gonna move there but
65:13
remember mar-a-lago he could not trump
65:15
could not live there
65:17
there they didn’t want him there but
65:19
there was something about that building
65:21
and a lot of people have rumors that
65:23
they said putin really owns the building
65:25
i don’t know i mean i don’t know if
65:26
that’s
65:27
the truth um what do you call it in new
65:30
jersey golf course
65:31
of course in jersey yeah
65:35
and it’s it’s closer to new york city
65:36
without him having to be
65:38
in new york oh but when uh django just
65:41
said
65:42
rudy was a star in new york city but he
65:44
fell off here’s the interesting thing
65:46
um mark daley or mr some
65:49
last name daley from the daily beast
65:53
wrote an article was on uh chris wallace
65:56
the other day speaking about
65:58
how rudy in fact was
66:01
downtown and he was we were ready to be
66:04
done with rudy
66:05
in new york and that’s kind of true that
66:08
he really was only down there to try to
66:10
go to his headquarters
66:12
during 911 but of course it was in
66:14
building seven
66:15
and then that fell and then he had to go
66:17
and work out of a fire department
66:19
somewhere
66:20
and how rudy could literally walk down
66:23
the street
66:24
and nobody really cared about rudy in
66:26
fact a lot of
66:27
you know it was just he there was a
66:29
serious branding
66:31
that went on for rudy and he lapped it
66:33
up
66:34
he lapped it up like a dog america’s
66:37
greatest mayor america’s greatest mayor
66:40
he did that because he had been branded
66:44
as a racist before then yes because he
66:46
ran that race
66:47
and the stop and frisking he did the
66:49
stop and frisk not blind
66:52
and ran that racist campaign against
66:54
david dinkins
66:55
yes he did he always was so
66:58
you know it’s uh it’s so it’s so
67:02
interesting i was i was reading a book
67:04
the other day about elliot ness
67:06
you know who was uh responsible for the
67:09
prohibition
67:10
uh the with uh al capone and he had this
67:13
interesting
67:14
statement in this article which or his
67:17
quotes which was
67:19
um it was always difficult for him to
67:22
try to
67:22
try this case for probe
67:26
you know with al capone breaking a law
67:30
for prohibition that the people did not
67:33
like
67:34
they basically saying the people didn’t
67:37
really
67:38
they wanted to have their liquor he knew
67:40
it was an unpopular
67:42
thing that he was doing because
67:43
essentially he was shutting down some
67:46
and it’s very much that’s happened here
67:48
trump is that guy that when you take him
67:51
down
67:52
it really exposes how much people did
67:55
support
67:56
his belief system and that’s why
67:59
america’s racist and that’s why it’s
68:01
kind of corrupt and that’s
68:02
all of all of it the sum total because
68:05
when our people
68:06
in these justice decisions like in the
68:09
feds and the fbi
68:10
and cia and whatever they have a
68:12
commitment
68:13
to they have to you have to have some
68:17
kind of moral high ground
68:19
uh to to get you through the day for
68:21
what you’re doing because these are
68:23
unpopular
68:24
choices so going after rudy there he is
68:28
no different than al capone being like
68:30
why is everybody after me
68:31
i like brought you booze i brought you
68:33
this and this one this is what this is
68:36
the
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game plan this is the same thing which
68:39
made me reflect a lot differently about
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the justice that americans want
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you see the justice they don’t really
68:48
want it if it benefits them
68:51
the corruption benefits them they’re
68:53
okay
68:54
looking the other way so so cinema
68:57
canelo is saying
68:58
have you guys noticed how silent the 45
69:01
family is
69:03
so again of course they’re not going to
69:06
say
69:07
anything when they’re already under
69:09
investigation anyway
69:10
well and again before we went live
69:12
there’s actually a story in vanity fair
69:15
reporter did a column saying that
69:18
giuliani
69:19
may rat on the 45 family
69:22
if i ca i don’t know if i can see that
69:25
happening
69:26
i can’t because as old as he is
69:29
i don’t think he’s going to want to
69:30
spend the last
69:32
you know what eight nine ten years he
69:35
has left
69:37
in prison yeah but but he must still he
69:39
must still think that 45 may get back in
69:41
and he may want
69:42
that 45 will bring him back on the
69:44
payroll again
69:46
he’s already on the payroll because he
69:47
is his lawyer right but if he’s going to
69:50
but he’s got he’s going to be faced with
69:52
a choice go to prison
69:53
or give us something better well you
69:56
know
69:58
it does it does go back again to what
70:00
jill is saying
70:01
will this actually go to the next step
70:04
like are they gonna be trial
70:08
right like and like an apartment rate is
70:10
great but
70:12
i know that what jill wants is them put
70:14
on trial and mark
70:15
and again that time factor again because
70:18
if it isn’t done before the midterms
70:20
next year it ain’t gonna happen
70:22
right but see this is the thing he’s not
70:24
gonna there’s not there’s never gonna be
70:26
a trial
70:28
what they’re gonna do is go to him and
70:30
his attorney
70:31
and try and work out a deal a deal’s
70:33
going to come before
70:34
a trial but he won’t do it because i
70:37
feel that
70:39
for him it’s actually beyond money
70:42
it’s beyond women it’s beyond faith
70:46
it’s not beyond fame it’s ego
70:49
and i just think that his ego he’d
70:52
rather
70:53
stall with with legal legal legal legal
70:56
and spend every dime
70:58
defending than to rat them out because
71:01
if he turns and the trump people will
71:04
turn
71:04
on him he couldn’t live with he can’t
71:06
die that way
71:08
he has to go down like i’m going down
71:10
with the chip
71:12
it’s ego and i don’t think he’ll flip on
71:14
him
71:15
and i think a lot of those old codgers
71:17
are like that they know their time their
71:19
days are numbered on this but the other
71:20
part is that he knows what they took
71:23
that see that’s that’s the big missing
71:25
truck he knows what the feds
71:27
took i got he knows this is a classic
71:30
ladies
71:31
this is why we got to get chris on the
71:32
show giuliani come back dear lord
71:35
he is already older than a price is
71:37
right model right now
71:42
chris when are you coming on this show
71:44
guys
71:48
that was so true oh my god giuliani was
71:54
there when they signed the first
71:55
constitution
71:57
oh right we were talking about that
72:00
earlier
72:01
and he went but he but you know he was a
72:04
fleet
72:05
because he had he was a flea that got
72:08
reincarnated later but he wasn’t there
72:11
reincarnated he reinvents himself he was
72:14
a flea and um
72:16
george washington and then wigs i don’t
72:19
think you
72:20
i don’t think you elevate
72:24
that’s brilliant girl
72:29
i was blaming you jill but no i think
72:31
it’s aisha it’s kind of the best i eat
72:34
yeah yeah you know what one
72:37
yeah i know one you know what you we
72:40
should put it on patreon
72:42
the the uh the conversations you don’t
72:44
get to hear live between jill and aisha
72:48
that’s so well on patreon we’re gonna
72:50
think about that
72:51
all right and then and we’re ending our
72:54
conversation as usual with this epero
72:56
episodes cockroach and the ladies are
72:59
unanimous
73:00
about another one of their favorite
73:02
ladies especially one of aisha’s
73:03
favorite ladies
73:06
nikki and nikki haley and jose going oh
73:09
boy my girl’s going to bring it on so
73:12
aisha
73:13
i didn’t even i had not heard you
73:15
mentioned this lady’s name for
73:17
and now you’re coming back with fur why
73:20
nikki hillary cockroach nimroda
73:24
has one nerve rachaela haley
73:28
have the nerve to come about her mouth
73:32
to say that democrats are pushing
73:35
this whole thing about racism
73:38
existing in america etc etc now
73:42
if racism didn’t exist she would go by
73:45
nimrata
73:47
instead of thank you right yeah somebody
73:50
got mad at me because
73:51
i said she passes for a living however
73:56
i stand by that statement jill i’m
73:59
forgiving you you know that jill
74:01
yes i know thank you i stand by you
74:05
and your girlfriend just not listen she
74:07
thinks it’s going anywhere now i
74:08
i got you i got i got you staggers i got
74:12
you
74:13
yeah you you keep on going go on now
74:16
i stand by that statement because anyone
74:20
who writes on their voter id
74:23
registration card that they are white
74:28
and they need that card for basically
74:30
they’re a politician that’s what they do
74:32
obviously you’d have a voter
74:33
registration card that’s passing for
74:34
what
74:35
right passing yeah she has done that
74:39
and you know she and dinesh d’souza or
74:43
whatever he is too he’s another
74:44
self-loathing indian
74:47
oh and and i remember
74:50
back in south carolina
74:54
because you guys remember i used to work
74:56
for a legislative commission in south
74:58
carolina when she was in the legislature
75:01
so back in south carolina
75:04
this is after i left the commission but
75:06
she was running for governor
75:08
um one member of her partner her party
75:12
uh former senator jake knox called her a
75:15
[ __ ]
75:17
and said i quote we already have a rag
75:20
head
75:21
in the white house we don’t need another
75:24
one
75:24
in the governor’s mansion yo really
75:28
but racism doesn’t exist right yeah
75:32
right see she’s a cockroach because
75:35
this is their glossing and it’s very it
75:37
is very interesting
75:39
how they’re picking the few minorities
75:42
that they have
75:43
i mean which is next which one’s next
75:46
i mean let’s be honest like who who’s
75:49
next
75:50
who’s next because they don’t have
75:52
anybody else tim’s like the only black
75:54
one
75:55
i mean in the senate come on they got
75:57
one latina
75:59
and that’s it and you would think nikki
76:01
haley
76:02
would have learned from bobby jindal
76:04
remember what happened to him yes
76:06
yes they swallowed them whole they did
76:09
they did his name no and that was
76:12
another thing
76:13
when i was going back in my facebook
76:15
stuff
76:16
there were so many politicians i was
76:18
like flipping out on that don’t even
76:20
exist anymore so
76:23
there’s that gave me some you know
76:25
comfort in knowing wow
76:28
you know a lot of these people are
76:30
really huffing and puffing because they
76:31
are on their last legs politically
76:34
politically they are this lady will
76:38
never be president no she blew it she
76:41
she blew it when they let trump
76:44
go in that was her that was she’s gonna
76:46
be the hillary clinton moment
76:49
like and the um warren moment
76:52
when elizabeth warren’s moment was the
76:54
that time hillary ran
76:56
that was her moment to actually do it
76:59
people were ready and primed
77:01
but it’s done it was done it was done
77:03
because you can’t come back from that
77:05
and nikki haley coming back in one hand
77:06
saying
77:07
i don’t agree with trump and now all of
77:08
a sudden she comes back that’s not the
77:11
female leader that we want you know
77:14
you don’t want somebody who’s just going
77:16
to bend over at every turn and nikki has
77:18
proven
77:19
that she will bend and say how far you
77:21
want me to go
77:22
um that is not leadership that isn’t
77:26
even anybody i respect
77:28
right if you are a person of color and
77:30
you have to
77:31
denigrate yourself to the point that the
77:33
only people you
77:35
are relying upon voting for you are the
77:38
racists
77:39
yes yes and something’s wrong with you
77:41
no she
77:42
she played her cards all wrong and now
77:45
we have to suffer through her
77:47
and her nonsense and they brought their
77:50
tokens out
77:51
and started waving them in front of
77:53
everybody that’s all this was if you
77:54
notice only the tokens were
77:56
were saying this craziness yeah crazy
77:58
tim scott and nimrod
78:01
just crazy yeah and this and what aisha
78:05
is saying about her name and
78:06
and and hiding it and changing it she’s
78:09
not
78:10
alone in this there were so many people
78:12
on twitter
78:13
confronting that issue with her it’s an
78:15
issue she refuses to address
78:18
it really is it’s like the fact that her
78:20
father still gets harassed
78:22
when he walks with his turban in bamberg
78:25
south carolina
78:26
yeah i want to talk about her sister
78:29
um i can’t i can’t pronounce her
78:32
sister’s name but her sister
78:34
wrote about them being um targeted
78:37
and evicted constantly for being a brown
78:40
family so yeah nikki
78:44
yeah she doesn’t want to relate to
78:46
people
78:47
she blew it because she did all the
78:50
right things that she thought she was
78:52
doing
78:53
but she’s sterile she’s cold
78:57
we saw how she performed in
79:00
in the ambassador role that she had
79:03
she was very ineffective she there was
79:06
nothing human it was robotic
79:08
it just she just really should make her
79:10
money and i hope she bought like some
79:12
you know little property they all do
79:14
when i look at me
79:16
family because their family are
79:17
multi-millionaires
79:19
from their clothing business that they
79:21
started from the ground up in their
79:23
living room
79:24
when nikki was busy doing their
79:26
bookkeeping when she was 12
79:28
nikki is part of a white family now
79:31
because she’s got her husband
79:32
married who right married into her her
79:35
husband
79:36
who’s not who is white and her children
79:39
who are white looking
79:41
right and here’s the other part of it
79:44
her
79:45
her in-laws obviously accept her but
79:48
do you think they accept you more
79:50
nimrata because you are a successful
79:53
politician or at least
79:54
were or because of who you were
79:57
it’s funny all the women that i’ve known
79:59
and like what i loved about england
80:02
uh with uh with uh women from
80:05
india and very different asian areas and
80:09
and and the multicultural you know vibe
80:12
in
80:13
in certain parts in england uh people
80:15
were not
80:17
running to change their names i that and
80:20
i think in canada as well
80:22
that that is not a typical thing here
80:25
people here will mispronounce your name
80:27
over and over
80:28
it is rude it is wrong it is
80:32
it’s why people name their their kids
80:34
you know names like
80:35
kathy and and really simple names
80:38
because they just want them
80:39
to you know when everybody was now
80:42
everybody is a
80:43
taylor or they’re going to be luna or
80:45
they’re going to be this or that
80:47
these were things because people here
80:49
are really rude
80:50
they shorten your name at leisure you
80:53
know
80:53
if your name is josephine people going
80:55
to call you joe
80:57
and and there is a certain thing of like
80:59
having to assimilate
81:01
and make everybody else feel comfortable
81:03
and make it always
81:04
easy um and that’s wrong that’s a form
81:07
of
81:08
being a bigot that that when you start
81:10
bending over backwards and allowing it
81:12
it’s wrong
81:13
it’s just plain out wrong yeah i’ve
81:16
known many parents who have had kids
81:18
and it’s a hard name my daughter has a
81:20
difficult name you know
81:22
but i can’t tell you just the
81:24
discrimination
81:25
that she has received just because
81:28
people can’t pronounce her name
81:30
yeah it’s it’s a hard life me and my
81:32
sisters
81:33
all have difficult names and they’re all
81:36
arabic
81:37
and so is my daughter’s a warrior yeah
81:40
and they
81:42
the funny thing is that you’ll get i’ll
81:45
get condescending white people on
81:46
twitter
81:47
when i talk about racism and
81:50
um they want to tell me you know
81:54
their view so their little condescending
81:57
microaggression
81:58
to say is to write my name
82:02
out you know like i’m threatened by my
82:05
name
82:05
right it’s my name i’ve lived with it 46
82:08
years
82:11
it’s important so when we see the oscars
82:15
happening
82:16
and daniel kaluya kalua
82:19
kaluya winning and i hope i pronounced
82:22
it right
82:23
correct me if i’m wrong these are really
82:25
important steps for us
82:27
people do not need to have to this young
82:29
kid who just got drafted in the nfl
82:32
i think his name is kinti
82:35
or his mother’s liberian a beautiful
82:38
story if you get a chance to look at the
82:40
draft of
82:40
what how that is we can talk about it
82:42
next week
82:44
but i want to know people’s names i i’m
82:47
inquisit i want to be able to say it and
82:49
show you the
82:50
respect but that goes back to is america
82:53
a racist country
82:54
it’s lazy it’s lazy and it’s become
82:58
less curious about people it’s become
83:00
less embracing
83:02
and uh yeah that can make you not only
83:05
racist but
83:06
ignorant as hell but in the 1970s
83:11
there’s a reason why nimrod did not want
83:14
to be nikki
83:14
i mean he wanted to be nikki what yeah
83:18
right
83:23
well i i i think we are done another
83:26
epic conversation
83:28
called staggers date of things with
83:30
special guest
83:31
jill jones as usual the ladies hit out
83:34
the park but
83:35
the the the audience tonight what
83:38
fire black beauty real django
83:41
chris uh cinnamon
83:44
canelo black beauty
83:48
all your equipment christina
83:51
thank you so much for helping make this
83:53
an epic conversation
83:55
and uh real dango lazy lazy lazy
84:00
and chris saying dr vibe that you should
84:02
jill thank you again for
84:03
convo have a great week ahead god bless
84:06
and all the very best to you
84:07
right back to you chris thank you so
84:10
much thanks everybody
84:11
thank yous as usual before we let them
84:14
go
84:15
and uh maybe go on twitter
84:19
who knows because you know they always
84:21
probably have messages waiting for them
84:23
on twitter
84:24
we ask them to tell us how they can be
84:26
reached so first off
84:28
jill jones i can be reached
84:32
at jill d jones at twitter and
84:35
uh facebook is joel jones
84:38
music music got it next up
84:42
asha k stagger at aisha staggered it’s
84:46
written below because it’s a difficult
84:48
name
84:51
oh my gosh and i’ll look i’ll say
84:54
only that because facebook it gets even
84:57
more difficult
84:58
because then you have to get the
84:59
spelling of my middle name
85:01
so i’ll be on twitter all right
85:04
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85:07
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85:48
everyone for watching it live tonight i
85:50
think we got a few more late comments
85:52
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85:55
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85:55
if i can cinema canelo goes thanks guys
85:59
have a safe week
86:01
and real django’s putting claps cops
86:04
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86:06
so much
86:06
to everybody hope you can listen to the
86:10
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86:11
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86:13
appreciated not taken for granted as
86:15
always i like to close out my
86:16
conversations like this
86:18
live your life as a dream if you can
86:20
dream it you can make it sometimes you
86:22
have to get smaller to get stronger
86:24
block assumptions getting bigger and
86:26
better in higher aim wider
86:28
love faith and respect remember to give
86:30
yourselves grace
86:32
god bless peace well keep the faith and
86:34
see you next week have a good one
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keep safe bye everybody
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so
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you

About Dr. Vibe’s guests:

Aisha K. Staggers had her first major publication, an album review, in The New Haven Register while just a sophomore in high school. Another series of reviews published in The Hartford Courant followed. By the time she reached college, Aisha was writing for the literary magazine and interning at a local radio station, ABC-affiliate as a writer in the news department and in the A&R department of an independent record company.

As a graduate student at Fisk University, Aisha asked Dr. Raymond Winbush to chair her thesis because 1) he was one of the most renowned voices in black culture and academia, and 2) he was a Prince fan. His scholarship and guidance led Aisha to an early career as a professor of social sciences and later an administrator in higher education.

Aisha has also served as a director of education and policy research centers and on the staff of legislative commissions. She previously served on the Executive Board of the CT Young Democrats’ Women’s Caucus, an avid campaigner and has remained active in politics and public policy. You can find more about Ms. Staggers via Twitter.

Jill Jones is our special guest for this conversation. Ms. Jones is activist, feminist, former collaborator with Paisley Park. Jones is activist, feminist, former collaborator with Paisley Park. You can find out more about Ms. Jones via Twitter.

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